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I don’t understand how people can call him slow, he is absolutely rapid.
He is better than RiceWe replaced this jugador with a makeshift 9 and shoehorned him in midfield
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All we had to do was find a simple midfielder who can replicate Xhaka's progression of the ball and other attributes that Xhaka didn't posses like dribbling in tight spaces but we screwed that up.
He is better than Rice
I don’t understand how people can call him slow, he is absolutely rapid.
Rapid is a stretch lol but let’s say he evades the last line of defence then do you really trust him to keep the ball steadily infront of him, have a cushioned touch or bury his chance with the keeper coming towards him?
I would say no to all the above
No, I wouldn’t, that is what he lacks - Conviction. But slow is one thing he isn’t.
As redundant as the debate about him being an Arsenal player is to begin with, I'm inclined to agree. There's a (very) limited amount of games where I'd like to see him in midfield and he's managed to eek out a decent season playing upfront for us. That run of games where we were beating everybody by 3+ goals is one of the best runs I've seen us go on in years and Havertz started all those games. That doesn't mean, however, we should rest on our laurels with Havertz. Fair play to him, he's actually become a genuinely decent attacker for us but he is not indispensable and eventually he will be usurped.I don’t want to be knee jerk or anything but if we’re scrapping this idea of him in the 8 role as it doesn’t work then I’m sure there were other options that could have provided a better return at CF than him.
Versatility was what was being sold to the naysayers on here but I’m sure the majority have now come to the conclusion that he’ll only work in the CF position in our system.
I don’t want to be knee jerk or anything but if we’re scrapping this idea of him in the 8 role as it doesn’t work then I’m sure there were other options that could have provided a better return at CF than him.
Versatility was what was being sold to the naysayers on here but I’m sure the majority have now come to the conclusion that he’ll only work in the CF position in our system.
Tbf, not many really expected Jesus and Martinelli to drop off as much as they have this season. I didn’t mind the Havertz signing as he provided depth to the attack.
I still don’t mind him, in fact I quite like what he offers as a 9. The thing we need to solve is if he plays 9, we need a world class winger and a top LCM.
He is better than Rice
I honestly don’t think he’s worth the hassle of building a system around him as you’re suggesting. I know it may sound unrealistic to get all four but a CF with more than the 9 PL goals he’s provided, wide option, LCM and LB could have all been done across last summer and this upcoming one if we were really serious.
We’ve got him now and splashed out £67m in doing so therefore I guess we just have to do with what we have.
We replaced this jugador with a makeshift 9 and shoehorned him in midfield
@BergMan @albakos
At-least our Albanian don got the last laugh with a title
All we had to do was find a simple midfielder who can replicate Xhaka's progression of the ball and other attributes that Xhaka didn't posses like dribbling in tight spaces but we screwed that up.
He is naturally more talented footballer though. I been saying for the longest Rice is a Deschamps basically. It’s just that he plays in an era where grafters are more appreciated than ever and ball players less appreciated than ever.lol you wanna go there?
Xhaka is defo the more cultured passer but Rice has the legs. Would be an easier comparison if Rice was late twenties/early thirties but I feel Arsenal will improve him.
He is naturally more talented footballer though. I been saying for the longest Rice is a Deschamps basically. It’s just that he plays in an era where grafters are more appreciated than ever and ball players less appreciated than ever.
Funny enough Havertz is the perfect example. People constantly talking about link up, press, hard work and freaking defensive headers. He is a freaking striker and they want to talk about everything other than goals.
This is what terrifies me the most about the summer window. I can see us splashing big money on a CF and Havertz will continue to underwhelm in midfield, which leads to our big-money striker also underwhelming. We all know that Arteta's system is dependent on everyone being on song. Otherwise, you get problems like our left side being completely useless.For me, I know signing a striker will mean Arteta will shoehorn Havertz in at LCM. He just will. That’s why I am more keen on getting an elite winger and LCM as I think that will have more of an impact on the team.
Preach brother.Funny enough Havertz is the perfect example. People constantly talking about link up, press, hard work and freaking defensive headers. He is a freaking striker and they want to talk about everything other than goals.
A lot of posters just saying anything for reactions after Sunday. Not only here but in the Rice thread, Saka thread, the Race for thread etc.The Xhaka talk is exhausting. This guy would still be a weak link here. Should have got a better player in to upgrade on him but we didn't. Shoulda, coulda, didn't.
No, it has been said here since the beginning of the season that we should have brought in a real striker. I doubt even Havertz know where his best position is.A lot of posters just saying anything for reactions after Sunday. Not only here but in the Rice thread, Saka thread, the Race for thread etc.