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Barca got rid of Suarez for Luuk De Jong and Aguero ffs.
Raul left them and everything went downhillBarca got rid of Suarez for Luuk De Jong and Aguero ffs.
Not sure it gonna fix anything they are just awful"When these b u m s gonna sack me ? "
Not sure it gonna fix anything they are just awful
He said before he should manage real madridOnly solution for Barca.
But Koeman has been using La Masia players a lot?
This is true, but a bit like Arsenal, while producing nothing of note from the early 2010s-late 2010s, they have now certainly produced something of note in Ansu Fati, Ilaix Moriba, and most likely Gavi and Nico. Xavi Simons and Khays Ruiz perhaps also...This La Masia bullshit....all fair and well to have a well run academy producing players every now and then for either your own team or to sell on, but their whole reputation relies on that freak group of Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Messi et al. As if you just rely on La Masia and every 10 years it'll churn out 5 of the best players of their generation. Return to bet on La Masia? They haven't ignored La Masia, they just produced nothing of note until Pedri - and that guy isn't even a serious Barca boy, but only came aged 16/17 from Las Palmas.
Remember Marc Muniesa, Carles Planas, Oriol Romeu, Cristian Tello, Grimaldo, Sergi Samper, Pol Calvet, Sandro Ramirez, El Haddadi, etc etc? All hyped up generational talents from La Masia whose career either went to absolute ****s or they became average players. Simple truth is La Masia just hasn't produced anything since their Golden Gen, hasn't produced an unsually high number of exceptional players before that and is just a bit of a hype job. There's nothing to return to if there ain't good players coming through.
This is true, but a bit like Arsenal, while producing nothing of note from the early 2010s-late 2010s, they have now certainly produced something of note in Ansu Fati, Ilaix Moriba, and most likely Gavi and Nico. Xavi Simons and Khays Ruiz perhaps also...
Ruiz was in the Barça academy since age 7 if I'm not mistaken. He went to PSG after the youth ruling when Barça couldn't give him a pro contract. Now he's back.Xavi Simons may have that name and an Insta account, but he's got everything to prove as a footballer. Ruiz-Atil is 19 and a PSG product - and while we're talking academies PSG might have the sickest one currently. The amount of talents they got and ship off is baffling, even in terms of the whole French talent landscape right now.
Tbf Samper and Sergi Roberto don't have much point of comparison to Gavi. They never had any instant success as a Barça player, nor were they called up to the Spanish national team to start...Gavi has played 8 games in a first team. Eight. Guy could come good but could also just drop off into nowhere. People were hyping Samper and Sergi Roberto into Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas stratospheres after more first team games.
Like I say, whether you like it or not, that output in the 2000s objectively justifies pretty much anything they want to say. You can cross it off as a cosmic luck but the fact is it happens, and in objective terms it justifies an academy's claim to being the best for decades and decades.Absolutely nothing justifies that magical reputation La Masia has besides the cosmic luck they had with that Golden Gen. They produce maybe a star player and a few decent ones of which they don't even use all themselves regularly, but that's not unusual.
Ruiz was in the Barça academy since age 7 if I'm not mistaken. He went to PSG after the youth ruling when Barça couldn't give him a pro contract. Now he's back.
Like I say, whether you like it or not, that output in the 2000s objectively justifies pretty much anything they want to say. You can cross it off as a cosmic luck but the fact is it happens, and in objective terms it justifies an academy's claim to being the best for decades and decades.
Going back to 2000, in a 20 year period, what academy has produced more talent?but bar that they haven't produced more and/or better talents than myriads of academies around the world.
Going back to 2000, in a 20 year period, what academy has produced more talent?
That's what I mean that when we're talking about objective facts, they can say that. Now, if they don't continue to produce and the time frame grows greater and greater, we can perhaps find an academy by 2030-35 that has produced more since 2000. But of course if you add Ansu, and a few of Gavi, Nico, Ilaix and whoever else comes through in that period, it will become more difficult to say even that.