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This exchange wouldn't look out of place anytime from 2009-2019. Yet, here we are, potentially on the cusp of a title win & it still happens.
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Bukayo Saka: Saka The Net
- Thread starter BigPoppaPump
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Country: Saudi Arabia
This exchange wouldn't look out of place anytime from 2009-2019. Yet, here we are, potentially on the cusp of a title win & it still happens.
There's not a forum on the internet that can touch AM for entertainment value
Maybe
You're wrong, no?
The forum would be a boring place without it, just look at the Saliba thread. I won't go there every week to write he is the best defender and will be the GOAT CB once his career ends, but it was a fun thread when I had to debate forum experts who were telling me we need to keep David Luiz and send this guy for his 5th loan.
Winning things will make this forum boring, but luckily for you, there will be **** like myself and @SuperGoon to entertain you
SuperGoon
Debbie Downer
Country: Ireland
Player:Saka
Shut up.
RunTheTrap
Kai Havertz Offense League
Well, last month we had seven matches, averaging to a game every three days. Maybe playing intense games in quick succession could tire players out more.
RunTheTrap
Kai Havertz Offense League
Most players are not consistent for over 50+ games a season. Unless you are Messi or Ronaldo. Palmer has unbelievable numbers this season, but he’s a had a few stinkers and games where he has gone missing.
Synical
Miss Superstitious
Country: England
Synical
Miss Superstitious
Country: England
Country: England
Numbers aren't everything.
His floor is terrifyingly high as the numbers show but in terms of influence and delivering when we've needed him the most he's shown that those crowning him as World Class were a bit premature. There's a reason why he's not in any of the player of the year conversations and it's not because everyone hates Arsenal.
He needs to combine those reliable numbers with a bit more consistency in terms of actually impacting games. Having a poor/average game then chipping in with a penalty goal or corner assist isn't enough for the biggest individual accolades.
Clive, an awesome, thoughtful and level-headed Arsenal guy, was getting audibly angry on AV Podcast, which is very very rare for him, and let's just say I share his sentiments exactly. He, I and Saka share something in common and let's just say that thing we share in common is a major factor in the way Saka is viewed, refereed, talked about, and analysed. But I'll leave it there as it's not the kind of thing I'd ever want to go back and forth with over the internet or with people I can't see and talk to in person.
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BigPoppaPump
Reeling from Laca & Kos nightmares
I mean it’s obvious he doesn’t get the same hype because he’s dark skin with an African name. But that’s what happens when you play for white man countries they’ll never love you like their own.
jaystewart
Active Member
I've also wanted to avoid it too but its why a certain player with blonde hair and blue eyes is being tauted as generational despite winning no trophies and nobody being able to name a single big game he was stand out performer in on 5 times of asking. It is hard to believe but it is just better to accept it and leave them do their thing. One of my dear friends told me Smith-Rowe was clear of Saka two seasons ago. Couldn't believe my ears.
Aussie_gunner123
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Country: Australia
Would Nico Williams & Olise from CP be good cover for Saka next season? We can't keep relying on Saka for 90 minutes for 38 games + UCL & cup games for next season. Considering he is only at a very young age. GJ if he is kept would be good cover aswell.
I’d utilise GJ from the right more. He played there a lot for City, and was actually very good there in the City home game this season.
Granted he’s been injured and out of form this season but it’s definitely and option worth exploring next season.
Aussie_gunner123
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Country: Australia
Yeah I've got no problem with GJ if we choose to stick with him but a 3rd player as depth would be ideal aswell. Olise & Nico could prove depth on the left & centrally aswell though imo.
Country: Canada
I was listening to him and when he said he'll speak about it in more detail another time I was internally begging him to just go out and say what we're all thinking because it's the ****ing truth.
I think Clive'll get to it in his own time, and I'm glad it'll be him starting the conversation because he's wise enough, nuanced enough and articulate enough to speak about it as both a footballing and also societal issue.
But as I said before I steer well clear of these conversations. I support Saka as a player and a person, and hope that whatever he wants out of the game won't be limited or hindered because of his treatment and perception.
That's all I can do really.
Then how come Cristiano won all those awards?? People kept saying he was better than Messi cause of his stats. And he almost always delivers lol. This BS narrative that Saka doesn't deliver in important games is simply not true. Only teams I have seen him struggle against consistently is Man City away. He plays good to great in almost every other big game home and away. Does the same for England too over guys like Grealish, Sancho, Foden, Rashford and in the last world cup was more impactful in the most important game against France than Kane. And he'd get even more assists with an actual clinical CF on the team. Or Martinelli and Jesus being in any sort of consistent form. It's no coincidence that Partey, one of the only mids in the team who consistently plays quick progressive passes when in form comes back and Saka's form also picks up.
They've tried to put everyone over Saka for years lol. They did the same for Martinelli. Even in the academy days, but the guy won't be denied.
Synical
Miss Superstitious
Country: England
Who's the blond guy?
avenellroad
John Radford’s son
He needs to add a bit more variety to his game. His current game is enough to beat most of the league’s fullbacks. At the Champions League level however he did nothing in the Bayern second leg
A position change could help him add a few more strings. I’d like to see him off the left. It might simply be giving him more rest so he’s not ****ed at the end of the season.
A position change could help him add a few more strings. I’d like to see him off the left. It might simply be giving him more rest so he’s not ****ed at the end of the season.
