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Are you for VAR or not?


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Yousif Arsenal

On Vinai's payroll & misses 4th place trophy 🏆
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That tweet is just click bait. All they said is that the technology couldn’t produce an angle, not we were wrong.

We’ve had similar when Saka was offside but couldn’t be proven.
I think the ball was clear out but just like Newcastle they stick with on field refs it's unlucky it happened against us twice but I just don't know why they didn't stick with on field decision when Manutd scored against Brighton is similar fashion and on field decision was a goal but VAR cancel it
 

Entropics

Established Member

Country: Colombia

Player:Saka
Yep, that's what everyone forgot. A smidge of the ball covered by Bowen's thigh could mean it was in

A nice case to understand why is not as simple as they do in tennis too. To provide the full view and cover those cases you would probably need a crazy investment, even for PL standards
 

NZgunner

Active Member

Country: New Zealand
A nice case to understand why is not as simple as they do in tennis too. To provide the full view and cover those cases you would probably need a crazy investment, even for PL standards
How hard or expensive would it really be? You could have a few dedicated drones over each line for a few thousand pounds. The money put towards refereeing and technology is absolutely miniscule compared to matchday revenues and TV rights - and what's financially at stake for getting things wrong.
 

albakos

Arséne Wenger: "I will miss you"
Administrator

Country: Kosova

Player:Saka
How hard or expensive would it really be? You could have a few dedicated drones over each line for a few thousand pounds. The money put towards refereeing and technology is absolutely miniscule compared to matchday revenues and TV rights - and what's financially at stake for getting things wrong.

You don't have to fly drone, you can do it simply by placing goal-line sensors across the whole line.

Same as like checking if the ball has crossed the line inside the frame of goal, same types sensors can be mounted on outside part between outside goal posts and the corner flags; in this way both outside goal sides of the goal can also be tracked.
 

Entropics

Established Member

Country: Colombia

Player:Saka

The Premier league needs to make a deal with some other referee institution ASAP.

Oh the decision was correct, these days that's a stonewall red. Dyche should be blaming the soft fans on that one that allowed the sport to believe contact is forbidden, not VAR.

Anyway here's the complaint of the day, courtesy of Wolves

 

drippin

Obsessed with "Mature Trusted Members"

Country: Finland
Oh the decision was correct, these days that's a stonewall red. Dyche should be blaming the soft fans on that one that allowed the sport to believe contact is forbidden, not VAR.

Anyway here's the complaint of the day, courtesy of Wolves

The biggest problem with VAR is the fact that they left the "clear and obvious mistake by the referee" in the VAR judgement. This leaves them the option to be biased or corrupt.

The aim should be to get the decision right, not if the referee made "a clear and obvious error". That is the part where the VAR referee by himself can change the outcome, especially as the main referee seems to 100% listen to the VAR referee and take the decision from him.

If they are called to the screen, the on-field things that the referee takes into account, are totally lost and not taken into account anymore.

They left this loophole there, as their last effort to affect match outcomes. And seem to hang onto it, even after all their mistakes etc. It's part of the rules/system they don't seem to even think about changing.

Like Dyche says, no one knows what is what anymore. It changes game after game and different referees have totally different views. The problem is not VAR as it works much better elsewhere, but EPL VAR.
 

Entropics

Established Member

Country: Colombia

Player:Saka
It won't get better as long as the people involved (players and coaches, not fans because fans are irrelevant) understand what other sports do is not having a perfectly consistent set of rules, but an understanding that the ref's word is law and if you have a place to moan it won't be on the pitch. As funny as those dissent yellows look, it's a good first step to make players and coaches understand they should just stop with the tantrums.

Convinced at this point you can have the refs fully mic'd live and even a delegate fan for both teams in the VAR cabin and the controversies will continue.
 

BenTal

Well-Known Member

Country: USA

Player:Zinchenko
But the moaning will eventually lead to change. Without it we get the same ****ty quality every year. Just compare the referees performance here against in Germany. The system here is really broken, and there must be a way to address it. For example, why the hell the wealthiest league in the world vote against using automated offside check?
 

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