Martin Ødegaard: El Capitanø

[GDeep™]

People get carried away with his flat track bullying, let’s see him against Porto, because he done nothing against them as I expected in the last leg.

 

[GDeep™]

I won’t be posting again either until my avi is changed again.

 

[drippin]

I won’t be posting again either until my avi is changed again.

GDeep turning into Casper the Ghost. Ghost Deep is the name.

 

[RunTheTrap]

GDeep turning into Casper the Ghost. Ghost Deep is the name.

Just like his boy Özil

 

[Rasmi]

Ødegaard>>>>>Özil

 

[grange]

I won’t be posting again either until my avi is changed again.

 

[Makingtrax]

This guy keeps getting better and better. Boundless energy, quick feet and incisive passing. The only question mark is, can he be the difference maker against the big teams when the pressure is on?

 

[RunTheTrap]

Ødegaard>>>>>Özil

I wouldn't go that far, Özil is my GOAT, but I'm here to call out the blatant hypocrisy. Some section of Arsenal fans call Ødegaard a flat-track bully or a big-game ghost, but Özil was notorious for doing the same.

 

[Buhry]

I wouldn't go that far, Özil is my GOAT, but I'm here to call out the blatant hypocrisy. Some section of Arsenal fans call Ødegaard a flat-track bully or a big-game ghost, but Özil was notorious for doing the same.

That's Özil's legacy for me, what I remember him for the most.

 

[Bloodbather]

I wouldn't go that far, Özil is my GOAT, but I'm here to call out the blatant hypocrisy. Some section of Arsenal fans call Ødegaard a flat-track bully or a big-game ghost, but Özil was notorious for doing the same.

I would go that far personally, because Ødegaard's defensive contribution is leaps and bounds above Özil. The guy's leading our press most games. I'd definitely take him over Özil at this point, does more out there.

 

[Maybe]

I would go that far personally, because Ødegaard's defensive contribution is leaps and bounds above Özil. The guy's leading our press most games. I'd definitely take him over Özil at this point, does more out there.

Yeah, if I would look for a Youtube video it would be with Özil, but for the team, Ode brings more. Just the fact that we are even comparing them tells you a lot about Ode, like it or not Özil was one of the best in the world and it's really good that we can have Ode in the same sentence

 

[Mitch]

People get carried away with his flat track bullying, let’s see him against Porto, because he done nothing against them as I expected in the last leg.

I don't agree with this flat track bully narrative.

Last season
Assist against pool
Goal against Sp**s
Assist against Utd
2 goals against Chelsea
Goal against Toon

 

[RunTheTrap]

I would go that far personally, because Ødegaard's defensive contribution is leaps and bounds above Özil. The guy's leading our press most games. I'd definitely take him over Özil at this point, does more out there.

Özil
+creativity
+vision
+final pass
+crossing
+pace
+ball control
+agility
+movement
+IQ

Ødegaard
+shooting
+finishing
+strength
+defensive work rate
+more press resistant
+leadership

 

[drippin]

Özil
+creativity
+vision
+final pass
+crossing
+pace
+ball control
+agility
+movement
+IQ

Ødegaard
+shooting
+finishing
+strength
+defensive work rate
+more press resistant
+leadership

Defensive work rate seems like it might include a few things? Which would downplay Ødegaard if it's compared like that.

To me it looks like in your list it includes stamina overall, defensive skills and even pressing. I think those should be mentioned separately.

Also we have to consider that Ødegaard was at the start of the season about the same age as Özil when he joined Arsenal. In his first season Özil had 5+10 in EPL and second 4+6 (although consider minutes played). Ødegaard has now 6+7 with 10 games to go.

Overall I think Ødegaard is much closer in the areas that Özil was still currently better, than Özil was in those Ødegaard plusses. Like mentioned above, I would definitely take Ødegaard, even if I was an Özil fan since his youth days.

 

[GDeep™]

You guys think Ode will do anything against Porto? I say probably not, again. I was right last time.

 

[Buhry]

You guys think Ode will do anything against Porto? I say probably not, again. I was right last time.

Well I hope he does because usually when he has a bad game our whole attack is bad. We'll see. But I agree, now is the time for him but also everyone else to show if they are champion material. If we go out against Porto my dissapointment will be immense.

 

[Bloodbather]

Özil
+creativity
+vision
+final pass
+crossing
+pace
+ball control
+agility
+movement
+IQ

Ødegaard
+shooting
+finishing
+strength
+defensive work rate
+more press resistant
+leadership

You're just expanding/using alternate words on certain stuff (creativity, vision, final pass) and not expanding on certain stuff (defensive work rate) to tilt the balance of quantity towards Özil here.

 

[GDeep™]

You're just expanding/using alternate words on certain stuff (creativity, vision, final pass) and not expanding on certain stuff (defensive work rate) to tilt the balance of quantity towards Özil here.

Players never judged on defensive work rate? That’s a new thing. Especially in the era of Özil.

 

[CannonBals]

I would go that far personally, because Ødegaard's defensive contribution is leaps and bounds above Özil. The guy's leading our press most games. I'd definitely take him over Özil at this point, does more out there.

Ødegaard is someone who you build a team around. Very good all round player.

Özil is the final piece, works great if you have a functioning team already. I love Özil to bits and he is someone who could unlock any defences. Best at that except Messi.

But if I am building a team today, I will pick Ødegaard as the game today has moved on from that final ball player.

 

[drippin]

Players never judged on defensive work rate? That’s a new thing. Especially in the era of Özil.

And what does that matter? Do think Arsenal should compete in modern football, or not? United got rid of Ronaldo, because he didn't press enough.

I would have wanted an Özil who is better at defensive stuff, and now luckily Ødegaard is at Arsenal.