Gabriel Martinelli: Dogged and Determined

[Nunowoolmez]

End product is similar.

In the last 365 days accoring to Fbref (Premier and UCL)

Trossard 0.49 non-penalty goals + 0.18 expected assists per 90 minutes.
Martinelli 0.35 non-penalty goals + 0.30 expected assists per 90 minutes.

But Martinelli was the pressure, tactical displine, ball carrying and speed advantage... and age on his side.

(Saka 0.34 non-penalty goals + 0.30 expected assists per 90 minutes with Ødegaard/White to help him and not playing alongside Tomiyasu/Zinchenko and Havertz LCM - like Martinelli did this season).

FFS

His end product needs to improve for him to be an automatic starter for me. Trossard has better end product at the moment. Nelli is only 22 still, so has lots of time to improve, but I don't think he should be a nailed on starter.

This is the most relevant bit & what I was referring to. Appreciate your attempt to dazzle me with statistics, but it would have saved you a lot of effort if you had simply read my post properly.

'At the moment' means currently, not the last 365 days mate.

 

[mpower2540]

As much as he frustrates me with some of his, at times, headless chicken style. His commitment to the cause is evident. He came on yesterday when we decided to sit in a low block and defend at 2-0. He hardly had any offensive moments to get into but he still ran his bollocks off to help the team. His attitude is first class

 

[fute]

As much as he frustrates me with some of his, at times, headless chicken style. His commitment to the cause is evident. He came on yesterday when we decided to sit in a low block and defend at 2-0. He hardly had any offensive moments to get into but he still ran his bollocks off to help the team. His attitude is first class

He is all team and effort. Love the guy's hustle on the pitch. It is joy to watch him and Odegarrd defensively. Those guys are full force when they press.

 

[HaffBR]

FFS



This is the most relevant bit & what I was referring to. Appreciate your attempt to dazzle me with statistics, but it would have saved you a lot of effort if you had simply read my post properly.

'At the moment' means currently, not the last 365 days mate.

365 days is 'at the moment' in football terms. It is not like it was a different world.

 

[TheEliteMaster100_]

Good wingback shift vs Brighton.

 

[DJ_Markstar]

Which one of you was this?

Guess he wants doggy style

 

[Nunowoolmez]

365 days is 'at the moment' in football terms. It is not like it was a different world.

No mate. 1 year ago is not 'at the moment'. 6 months ago is not 'at the moment'. Even 3 months ago isn't. At the moment infers the present time.

Anyhoo, what Im getting at is that Martinelli is not as productive this season as last. 15 & 5 last season. Just 6 & 4 so far this season.

Trossard was 1 & 10 for us with just half a seasons contribution last season, & is 12 & 2 so far this season...

Still plenty of games to go, hopefully BOTH can contribute more goals & assists before the season is out.

 

[Batman]

Guess he wants doggy style

 

[HaffBR]

No mate. 1 year ago is not 'at the moment'. 6 months ago is not 'at the moment'. Even 3 months ago isn't. At the moment infers the present time.

Anyhoo, what Im getting at is that Martinelli is not as productive this season as last. 15 & 5 last season. Just 6 & 4 so far this season.

Trossard was 1 & 10 for us with just half a seasons contribution last season, & is 12 & 2 so far this season...

Still plenty of games to go, hopefully BOTH can contribute more goals & assists before the season is out.

It is not a 1 year ago either. It is the time frame which considers 8 april 2024 as well. Martinelli this season has been injured a lot and played a long part of the season with Havertz LCM which largely denied his imput. He isn't far away this season.

 

[Nunowoolmez]

It is not a 1 year ago either. It is the time frame which considers 8 april 2024 as well. Martinelli this season has been injured a lot and played a long part of the season with Havertz LCM which largely denied his imput. He isn't far away this season.

Thank you.

 

[HaffBR]

Thank you.

The median point of the sample is not a year ago. Thats too simple to understand.

 

[Nunowoolmez]

The median point of the sample is not a year ago. Thats too simple to understand.

Yes, that is what I explained to you mate. Thank you for agreeing, now let's move on !

 

[HaffBR]

Yes, that is what I explained to you mate. Thank you for agreeing, now let's move on !

 

[DJ_Markstar]

fight fight fight

 

[TheEliteMaster100_]

Hall of Shame performance vs Bayern, Kimmich had his most comfiest game in a good while.

Trossard has been the better clutch player and big moment player than Nelli, it's time people drop their sentimentality regarding our players.

 

[Pop Tart]

He has not kicked on from his output last season, just too predictable. always as threat but I think this is it with him.

 

[Buhry]

Really poor game today, kept trying long shots as well because he couldn't do anything better with the ball.

 

[OnlyOne]

Mudryk.

 

[MikelHadADream]

He struggled a lot. No surprise Trossard and Jesus looked more comfortable, they’re at a different level technically.

 

[GoonerJeeves]

He looks a bit rusty after his injury spell.