✍️ OFFICIAL William Saliba (Loan)

[OnlyOne]

Because people are saying we let Saliba choose not to piss him off. Imagine a club making its decisions based on not pissing off a 20 year old.

Okay, it isn't to stop him getting pissed off, maybe the club also think it's the best place for him to go?

 

[Wounded Healer]

not even mentioning willian and luiz which were an embarrassment as well. and a huge loss.

 

[14Henry]

Okay, it isn't to stop him getting pissed off, maybe the club also think it's the best place for him to go?

That's not what you said but. Be consistent.

 

[Macho]

First of all, it's pretty hilarious people are trusting Arteta's assessment of a young player.

Second of all, also funny that people actually think he's coming back.

I think there is enough to assume that this is more than just footballing reasons.

 

[AberGooner]

Maybe it only took Arteta one month of preseason, to figure out this guy wasn't ready at all for this league?

Say what you want about Arteta, but we have been very good defensively since he took over, a bus he knows how to park!

He has played Gabriel from that league, Holding has been developed well by him, he has played young defenders...maybe Saliba just isn't very good right now.

Just because he was expensive, doesn't mean he is good enough/ready yet...cc Mustafi.

Arteta thought Mustafi was good enough though, even offered him a new deal. He's also more proven and experienced than Gabriel was coming out of that league. Sometimes people just don't get on for whatever reason.

 

[TimoJens]

Arteta doesnt like him and thats it. This has nothing to do with football quality so lets stop pretend that it has.

 

[BigPoppaPump]

I just don’t see the issue in loaning him to a French club, the guy literally just turned 20 and has years ahead of him to gain experience in the PL.

From a welfare point of view surely it’s better then we have greater control when/ if he moves here and adjusts?

Like AFTV with Wenger, part of the problem here is that a portion of fans are done with Arteta no matter what.

I think it mostly comes from people being scared we're gonna lose him after this loan. People tend to get attached to young players and a lot thought he was 'the Mbappe of defenders' so they're feeling slighted.

I don't get how being on the bench for Newcastle is better for development then playing a full season but what do I know?

 

[Wounded Healer]

not even mentioning he wanted to extend luiz. a brick could have manage us better.

 

[Riou]

Arteta thought Mustafi was good enough though, even offered him a new deal. He's also more proven and experienced than Gabriel was coming out of that league. Sometimes people just don't get on for whatever reason.

We offered Mustafi a new deal, on a reduced wage, to try and sell him and get some money for him, instead of just losing him for free...he rejected us as he didn't want a paycut, plus he could have greater control over his next move too.

 

[El Duderino]

First of all, it's pretty hilarious people are trusting Arteta's assessment of a young player.

Second of all, also funny that people actually think he's coming back.

I think there is enough to assume that this is more than just footballing reasons.

The most telling aspect is that prior to the OM link appearing with the deal all but done, the official line repeated over and over by the manager and press was that he was going to be assessed during pre season.

His agent meets with the club and just like that he's loaned. Either he was told or asked to be let go before pre season, either way it doesn't look like he'll be here long term.

 

[El Duderino]

We offered Mustafi a new deal, on a reduced wage, to try and sell him and get some money for him, instead of just losing him for free...he rejected us as he didn't want a paycut, plus he could have greater control over his next move too.

Source on this?

 

[OnlyOne]

That's not what you said but. Be consistent.

Well, I'm saying it now.

 

[Riou]

Source on this?

Just using common sense here, tbh...would have been no other reason for Mustafi to reject the contract.

 

[14Henry]

Well, I'm saying it now.

Exactly. Changing opinions and what you are saying to keep denying what is obvious. Be consistent.

 

[em9999]

I hope Saliba just goes permently I'm sick of hearing his name .. let arteta buy animal abusers what's the point in *****ing about it , pardon the pun.. no matter what we say they don't care and hey why should they

 

[El Duderino]

Just using common sense here, tbh...would have been no other reason for Mustafi to reject the contract.

Think we've got another "sounds like hairspray" merchant here @American_Gooner

 

[14Henry]

I think it mostly comes from people being scared we're gonna lose him after this loan. People tend to get attached to young players and a lot thought he was 'the Mbappe of defenders' so they're feeling slighted.

I don't get how being on the bench for Newcastle is better for development then playing a full season but what do I know?

Can you say with anything substantial that Saliba isn't good enough to play 15-18 matches for a bottom 10 PL club?

 

[Riou]

At the end of the day, Arteta seems set on a Gabriel-White pairing.

Saliba probably won't be here long term, considering the age of the former 2...depending or how good they are for us, and how good Saliba turns out...will decide if Mikel/Edu made the right call here.

 

[OnlyOne]

Exactly. Changing opinions and what you are saying to keep denying what is obvious. Be consistent.

I haven't changed my opinion? I'm adding different points.

 

[El Duderino]

I would love to see a Mexican standoff between football manager, Highbury and 14Henry.

The Skills, The Source? and the Angry would make for a great modern western.